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But how is it a server issue?

The server times at California were confirmed correct by Dreamhost. They confirm too that they show me being 3 hours ahead.

The Change Log (Admin) show correct time (24 hour). Further more, the Last change on a record is showing correctly too. Hence I don’t see how those 3 times are from the server.

It’s only the 3 at the top of the Admin Panel that are way off.

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Sorry, but I still can’t help. It’s inconsequential, not bothering any other user, and I have more important issues to look at.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

Did you ever try what I suggested in posts #6309 and #6311 of this thread? Did it make any difference? Just interested.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

My reply back was asking how is this done and what impact will this have on all other times/dates? (Which are correct)

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The Royals |The Kennedys|The Gerrer Rabbis  3.3.12 -  PHP Version 8.1.17 - mySQL 8.1

To which I answered:

You need to change the server’s Default Time zone, which means changing the php.ini file, either your self if you have that permission, or by using a .htaccess file if your host prefers / allows that, or by asking your web host to change it.

As to the rest, I don’t know because I can’t replicate your problem. You’ll only find out by trying.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

1st March 2014 at 10:24 am, I reported the same issue in version 2.0. The ?issue? has repeated itself ever since. I have just ignored it as it is just administration info and doesn’t effect anything operationally.

Roy

Roy

Apache 2.4.27  PHP 7.19 MariaDB 10.2.8

Roy, perhaps you would be able to try the suggestion I have given Mac. It would be very helpful.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

Nigel:

The php.ini default timezone set to “America/New_York”. The client is set to “(UTC-5:00) Easter Time (US & Canada)”. The result is as seen in the attached.

Both are located in the UTC-5:00 timezone

Roy

Roy

Apache 2.4.27  PHP 7.19 MariaDB 10.2.8

Nigel:

Ran another test. Changed php.ini default time zone to America/Adak which should be UTC-8. The result is attached.

Roy

Roy

Apache 2.4.27  PHP 7.19 MariaDB 10.2.8

OK, lets clarify some definitions as this might help unclutter the issue.

1 – UTC – this is a time standard, not a time zone. Called a standard because it never changes. GMT, which is almost the same (wiki can explain the differences), is a time zone. Time zones vary by the use / non-use of summer time / daylight saving time adjusters. UTC does not.

2 – The difference between UTC and EST is EITHER -4 hrs or -5 hrs, depending if it is actually EST being used at the time or EDT (Easter Daylight time).

3 – UTC is useful because comparing time zones gets messy because some use daylight savings, some use summer time, some use neither, and there is no standardisation as to when the change occurs. For example, NZ is nominally 12 hours ahead of the UK, but actually 11 hours for almost half the year; 13 hours for almost the other half, and exactly 12 for just a couple of weeks!

4 – The “default time zone” setting in php.ini is NOT “server time”. It is the time the server uses for php calculations. The server also has it’s own time zone setting not generally accessible to clients.

5 – MySQL also has a time zone setting, although in most cases it “should” be set to match the server setting by default. Only the server manager can confirm if that is the case.

5 – Kiwitrees uses PHP for it’s code and MySQL for it’s database. It is not necessary, or always the case, that a web host use the same server for both. Your web site could have it’s php server and it’s database server in completely different time zones.

So when you stitch all these variables together it is not hard to see where confusion creeps in, and perhaps helps to understand why I cannot easily answer these queries.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info