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  • #10737

    Is it possible to modify the SUBM (submitter) information in a gedcom in Kiwitrees? The submitter information in my gedcom file is out of date, and I’d like to modify it in Kiwitrees, without exporting/editing/importing the gedcom file.

    The SUBM tag appears as

    0 @[email protected] SUBM

    in the gedcom file, but this “source” does not appear in the list of sources, so how does one edit it?

    James

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #10738

    Is it possible to modify the SUBM (submitter) information in a gedcom in Kiwitrees? The submitter information in my gedcom file is out of date, and I’d like to modify it in Kiwitrees, without exporting/editing/importing the gedcom file. The SUBM tag appears as

    0 @[email protected] SUBM

    in the gedcom file, but this “source” does not appear in the list of sources, so how does one edit it?
    James

    I did add a partial solution to this a couple of years ago, but it seems it is no longer working correctly. To see what I mean, type “SUBM” (no quotes) in the general “Search” field in your site’s header/menu area. You should see the submitter record returned on screen. It should be editable but currently isn’t.

    Now replace the file kiwitrees/gedrecord.php with the one from the zip folder attached below here and try the same again. Hopefully, you will now get a “Raw GEDCOM edit” screen where you can change the contents.

    For more information about what can,/can not be included in a SUBM record have a look at the GEDCOM specification (available at https://kiwitrees.net/faqs/general-topics/gedcom-specification/ ) on page 28.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #10743

    Thanks for your reply Nigel.

    I wasn’t able to find the SUBM record by searching for SUBM, but I did obtain it by searching for S0.
    However, even with your new gedrecord.php file, the record can still not be edited (no “Raw GEDCOM edit” screen).

    James

  • #10744

    OK. Currently that code looks for a cross reference of specifically “SUBM” (0 @[email protected] SUBM). I’ll look to see if It can instead look for a record type “SUBM” instead (the second SUBM in the above)

    Using a reference of “S0” is not a good idea though, as it will too easily get confused with sources. I suspect that in your tree you will have entries for both of these:

    0 @[email protected] SUBM
    and
    0 @[email protected] SOUR

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #10747

    I think the code in the GEDCOM file was generated by a genealoy program, probably Legacy. The way it’s organised is as follows.

    In the header of the file there is a forward reference:

    1 SUBM @[email protected]

    Then towards the end of the file the record itself:

    0 @[email protected] SUBM
    1 NAME xxx
    1 ADDR yyy
    2 CONT zzz
    (etc.)

  • #10748

    I think the code in the GEDCOM file was generated by a genealoy program, probably Legacy. The way it’s organised is as follows…………..

    Thanks, James, that’s very helpful.

    Try the attached version of the same file ( kiwitrees/gedrecord.php ). It should now let you edit your S0 reference.

    Note: this is a temporary fix. It improves slightly on the previous version, but ultimately there should be a complete “SUBM” record structure similar to, for example, SOUR or NOTE. This because the GEDCOM specification actually requires a minimum of one SUBM record, but allows an infinite number. You can have a SUBM record and attached name/address/ etc details attached to ANY other record, be it a person, family, source, media object etc…. If used correctly it allows any or every record in your tree to be referenced to the person who supplied it!

    But I know of very few people who use such a feature, and even software that can handle it. So it’s not going to be a high priority for me.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
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  • #10749

    Hello Nigel,

    There didn’t appear to be a file attached to your reply.

    James

  • #10751

    Oops, sorry. I got distracted!! I’ve attached it to that post now.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #10752

    OK That worked fine.

    Thanks a lot for your help.

    James

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