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  • #3118

    Any easy way to hide the login link in the menu bar?

    Before I just did /comment out the login – I can not do that now after you changed it

    Edit: Nvm I found it in header πŸ™‚

    Regards,
    Jamie Jaconelli

    admin and owner of a user customized version of kiwitrees (contains 3 family trees)

  • #3119

    Glad you found it. I never changed it (except for kiwitrees theme), so nit sure why you would have had a problem.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #3120

    By the way, I know you use Fancy Tree View. Have you read my “Roadmap” page lately? I think you will like what it says πŸ™‚

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #3136

    By the way, I know you use Fancy Tree View. Have you read my β€œRoadmap” page lately? I think you will like what it says :-)

    Just did πŸ™‚
    Yes I like the module and your plan on replacing it with the report would be a great idea – the fancy report – much more smooth than the standard reports imo!

    Think it is 2 years ago I asked for general love for reports (at wt.org) – I still think reports should be made as module so users can define things like sorting, dec/anc/fam/living or what ever (instead of the pro-defined reports) – ability to write a header/footer – including/excluding familytree ect. I called it user-defined reports. If you know FTM – the idea is from that application (I know this system is far away from pc-apps – but it can still be done)

    Regards,
    Jamie Jaconelli

    admin and owner of a user customized version of kiwitrees (contains 3 family trees)

  • #3137

    … I asked for general love for reports (at wt.org) – I still think reports should be made as module so users can define things like sorting, dec/anc/fam/living or what ever (instead of the pro-defined reports)…

    I do plan on improving the reports, but I’m afraid I will never have the time (or the interest) to go as far as you would like. I can understand the interest in “Fancy tree view”, and see some use for simple reports or lists that can be printed and used on a research trip (lists of events in the place you are visiting perhaps) but beyond that, I would never print anything. So for me reports as you describe would be such a very low priority that it would be more honest of me to say they will never happen. Sorry, but at least you know πŸ™‚

    There are products available that specialise in producing reports, some by just taking a GEDCOM file. Kiwitrees can produce the file, so I prefer to let those “experts” produce the tools for writing complicated reports.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #3214

    So you are saying something about making a xml report we can export data to example word/excel/project or w/e wanted report system we want to create. Like having some options which data/id we want to export and work with editable data in exported form?

    Regards,
    Jamie Jaconelli

    admin and owner of a user customized version of kiwitrees (contains 3 family trees)

  • #3217

    No, nothing that complicated. I know very little about XML and do not want it as part of kiwitrees. I can not maintain or develop code I do not use or understand or value.

    I am only saying that there are other software products that will produce reports and charts from a GEDCOM file that you can easily export from kiwitrees.

    This is just one example: http://www.tcgr.bufton.org/tcgrover.htm

    But if you search the web you will find others both for charts and for reports.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #3218

    It is more or less just a notepad file, dot separated πŸ™‚ But exporting it as a html file might be something. Many pc software can handle that!

    My suggestion is only about making a better output system in some way and making editable data could be an good solution. It is actually not funny to type everything by hand! As I understand you do not have the need of reports – but I know “we” have (danes). To use it from a gedcom file is a very very big method since I can not sort out parts. I know I can use the “clipping cart” – but it is still so many steps and more than one gedcom file to work with. It is not a big deal with small trees and no complicated relationships. But who has tree like that?

    So my suggestion is still – few simple reports and a way to export to self defined reports.

    Regards,
    Jamie Jaconelli

    admin and owner of a user customized version of kiwitrees (contains 3 family trees)

  • #3225

    So my suggestion is still – few simple reports and a way to export to self defined reports.

    I agree with “few simple reports”, and they will be HTML only (no PDF).

    “a way to export to self defined reports” is a “nice to have” idea, but given the list of things already planned I would estimate not less than two years before it could be looked at – unless you know someone keen to develop it for us πŸ™‚ For me it would not even reach the “Long term” part of the Road map yet I’m afraid.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
  • #3227

    By the way – XML is most definitely NOT “..more or less just a notepad file, dot separated..”

    That sounds more like a variation on a CSV file. An XML file is :

    a markup language that defines a set of rules for encoding documents in a format that is both human-readable and machine-readable. It is defined in the XML 1.0 Specification produced by the W3C, and several other related specifications,[4] all free open standards.

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML)

    Just look at one of the XML files in a reports module in kiwitrees to see how complex they are. They are just like HTML, but with a need to learn yet another language on top of the html / js / php / css we already have to handle.

    Nigel
    My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
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