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25th March 2022 at 12:55 pm #14016
If you do undertake revamping the CA, two wish list items:
- either First name, Last name or Last name, First name for all countries (I’ve only used US & Canada thus far
- Canada – Wife’s married last name as is done for US but not Canada
- Some way to include in-laws that will link back to their record
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10th April 2022 at 5:40 pm #14098
either First name, Last name or Last name, First name for all countries (I’ve only used US & Canada thus far
No, sorry, that wouldn’t necessarily be right (assuming I understand your description). CA is there to transcribe, not re-write the forms. So if the original forms differ between countries, or between years within a country then CA should follow that, not change it.
Canada – Wife’s married last name as is done for US but not Canada
The code used is the same for most countries, and should use the wife’s married name.
BUT – in order to provide that your data must be complete. There needs to be a MARR event in the Family record; that event needs to have a date; that date must be earlier than the census date; and the wife must have a married name using the _MARNM tag.Some way to include in-laws that will link back to their record
I ‘think’ you are asking for additional entries on the shared note (transcription) created by the Census Assistant, in the form of the names of in-laws, and for those to link back to the INDI page of those people.
If that’s correct then the answer is a double no.
1 – Links are not possible on those notes.
2 – If these people are not on the original form, then we can’t add them to a transcription of it.There are other ways that it is or can be done:
1 – use the ASSO tag attached to the census event.
2 – if those people DO appear on the original form, then you can click on the title of the shared note to go to it’s own page, where all those people on the form ARE listed and linked back to their INDI pages.
3 – Add a simple note to the census event.Nigel
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10th April 2022 at 5:50 pm #14099
Actually LAC (Library Archives of Canada) started using Ancestry for transcribing 1921 census. The format is LASTNAME, first Name on original forms as with USA. I think that’s why Ancestry has the census on their site and Family Search doesn’t. Money talks.
Will see what happens 2023 when fingers crossed, 1931 Canaans census is released. Between now and then, rules may change as they did with other records. “Privacy because people live longer” was excuse.
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10th April 2022 at 5:59 pm #14100
Actually LAC (Library Archives of Canada) started using Ancestry for transcribing 1921 census. The format is LASTNAME, first Name on original forms as with USA. I think that’s why Ancestry has the census on their site and Family Search doesn’t. Money talks.
For kiwitrees Census Assistant we are only interested in what was required (or commonly used) on the original form at the time the census was carried out. Not interested in how any other current-day organisation chooses to transcribe it. So how it is transcribed by Ancestry, LAC, or anyone else is irrelevant. The end result should be (IMHO) an accurate transcription of the original document.
Some things are, of course, personal choice. But, for example, I routinely change the Census Assistant’s ‘proposed’ entry where I see on the original form a spelling or other error in the names, dates, places etc. I enter what is on the original form exactly (though possibly with an added note of explanation if it seems appropriate).
Nigel
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10th April 2022 at 6:08 pm #14101
THE original Canada census has LAST, First name. What I do find “problem” is one needs the window very wide to see first names. I normally use wide enough that kiwitrees shows menus and not drop down as I have lots of other stuff open (in use).
What’s amusing is I’ve read the instructions to census takers (ala 1921) and it specifically states do not use “student” or “school” and lots of other dont’s. Most of them never listened which is probably why the original form isn’t legible. Too much scribble over it. I on’t have the eyesight to try reading the census so do rely on Ancestry’s transcription.
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