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Nit-picking time! I’ve just stumbled upon a few anomalies In Administration:

First page – left-hand block headed Users – clicking on a number of the listed items does not yield the expected result:

My display shows:
Total Number of Users 304
Administrators 3
Managers [My Family Tree] 3

‘Administrators’ produces a list of 34 users, none of whom are administrators
Clicking on (My family Tree) under ‘Managers’ produces the message ‘No records to display’

Unverified by User 10
Unverified by Administrator 26

Clicking on either of these items produces the message ‘No records to display’

Users Languages:
British English 168
Australian English 5
U.S. English 131

Clicking on any of these items produces the message ‘No records to display’

Have I failed to set something up correctly or is there a bug here?

Finally, I have noticed that the first time I go to Administration during a logged-in session, it takes a very long time to display the first page (typically 55-65 seconds – a response time rivalled only by the Relationship Chart function!). Not really a big issue of course – I’m merely intrigued to know what it can be doing to require so much time – and wondering whether this could in part explain the incorrect user statistics it comes up with.

Best regards
Ron

Ron in France Website: https://clan-davies.kiwitrees.net/ kiwitrees 3.3.11; PHP 8.0.14

clandav wrote:

Have I failed to set something up correctly or is there a bug here?

Sort of. I removed all those clickable links from that display early in January, a change included in the last update (3.0.0). So if you are still seeing them them your upload failed to replace the file admin.php.

Why did I remove them? Precisely because of the issues you raise above. I decided, as those bugs had been around for at least a couple of years, that no one would miss the links. So it was easier to remove them than fix them. You can get all the same info from the full users list

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

Thanks for the response Nigel.

if you are still seeing them them your upload failed to replace the file admin.php.

Very odd – admin.php has the same date/time stamp on the server as the rest of the 3.0.0 files, and the size is right. I’ll try uploading it again……..

Have just done that, cleared cache etc, refreshed and still have the same problem. I agree with you that it’s not a big issue, but apparently it should no longer be there, so I had better try to find out why I still have it. The version of admin.php on the server certainly seems to be the v.3.0.0 one – I have just downloaded it and compared. It runs to 1489 lines of code whereas the previous (v.2.2.0) version was only 1425. Any ideas?

Ron

Ron in France Website: https://clan-davies.kiwitrees.net/ kiwitrees 3.3.11; PHP 8.0.14

Ron

Sincere apologies for wasting your time. Please ignore all or at least most of my replies above. I really must stop trying to answer questions from memory, on my iphone, before breakfast!

I did plan on removing those links, but never followed through with the change, so you are right they do not work.

I can fix it, but it is complicated. I still wonder whether it’s worth the effort.

Any opinions?

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

Ah! I’m relieved – at my age, there are too often little indications that I may be losing it and it’s good to have them eliminated!

Any opinions?

From my point of view there are a couple of clickable items in that ‘Users’ block that really would be quite useful to have as they represent actions outstanding to be checked out and dealt with. They are ‘Unverified by User’ and ‘Unverified by Administrator’ . As you say, you can obtain this information from the full Users List, but with over 300 registered users it does take a while to work through trying to identify the few that may need attention. The other items are simply information which is not particularly volatile or vital. So if was not too complicated to turn those two numbers into lists, I think it would be worth doing. Or, if it would be much easier, perhaps highlighting in some way (bold red font?) the presence of ‘no’ in the ‘Verified’ and ‘Approved’ columns in the Full Users List. The only other item requiring admin monitoring on Users (checking on and pruning out ‘inactive’ ones) seems to be well handled.

Ron in France Website: https://clan-davies.kiwitrees.net/ kiwitrees 3.3.11; PHP 8.0.14

I spent a little time today looking at this and decided that fixing the links properly will be the best way to go.

But in the interim, you do realise that all the columns in the main user list are sortable don’t you? So to find any unverified, just sort that column so they are all together at the top.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

you do realise that all the columns in the main user list are sortable don’t you?

NO – I hadn’t realised that!!! – see what I mean about those little indications?! – and for me, frankly, that solves the problem so please don’t put any effort into this Nigel if I’m the only one to have found it a problem.

Thanks for putting me straight.

Ron in France Website: https://clan-davies.kiwitrees.net/ kiwitrees 3.3.11; PHP 8.0.14

It’s worth remembering that tip elsewhere too. The same style of list is used in many places, and in almost all the columns are all sortable.

It’s particularly valuable on things like Individual and Family lists to look for earliest or lates birth dates (or just simply wrong) and similar searches.

Nigel
My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

Thanks Nigel.

Ron in France Website: https://clan-davies.kiwitrees.net/ kiwitrees 3.3.11; PHP 8.0.14